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An interesting article from today's Las Vegas Advisor:
Q: Where does the gambling term 'punter' come from?
A: We're glad you specified 'gambling term,' so we didn't go off on some wild tangent about football, hookers, file-transfer protocols, indentations in the bases of wine bottles, or English-style gondolas. And you're not referring to the Australian socialite and basketball coach Christopher 'Punter' Ponton, nor indeed to the Hindi expression for the term 'dude,' as in, Punter hai re ekdum, meaning, 'He's a cool dude,' are you? You're talking about the British and Australian term for those who place wagers, as in, 'Daring Donkey in the 2.15 at Ascot is definitely worth a punt, mate.' Right?
That's unfortunate, since this is the trickiest usage of the word to fully account for, its complete etymology proving somewhat elusive. But here's a stab at it.
The most convincing origin we came across derives from a version of the popular European game of baccarat known as punto banco, in which the players, i.e., those who stake against the bank ('banco'), are known as punters, from the Italian (and Spanish) term punto, meaning 'a point,' although why exactly, we're not sure. While the origins of baccarat remain obscure, it's certainly an old game, since its introduction to France from Italy has been traced to the 15th century. Other relatives of baccarat include chemin de fer, baccarat banque (or et deux tableaux), and the now virtually obsolete basset or bassette.
So far so good. But how the term came to mean gamblers in general or, as it tends to today in the U.K. and Australia, horse racing bettors in particular, we're not sure. In the financial world, someone who invests money in a chancy game or business (particularly the stock market), in the expectation of making a profit, is also referred to as a punter.
While in both countries a 'punt' can mean a bet, in Australia 'punting' is also used to mean gambling, while in England punting generally means 'boating in a punt.' These days in England, the term 'punter' is used to refer to any customer of a business, as in, 'Let's see if the punters like this new Swedish beer before we cancel our order for Bud.'

Vigorish (also known as juice, under-juice, the cut, the take, the margin, the house edge or simply the vig) is the fee charged by a bookmaker (or bookie) for accepting a gambler's wager. In American English it can also refer to the interest owed a loanshark in consideration for credit. The term came to English usage via Yiddish slang (Yiddish: וויגריש‎‎, romanized: vigrish),[1] which was itself a loanword from the original Russian.[2] (Russian: вы́игрыш, romanized: výigryš, lit.'gain, winnings')

As a business practice it is an example of risk management; by doing so bookmakers can guarantee turning a profit regardless of the underlying event's outcome. As a rule, bookmakers do not want to have a financial interest creating a preference for one result over another in any given sporting event. This is accomplished by incentivizing their clientele to wager offsetting amounts on all potential outcomes of the event. The normal method by which this is achieved is by adjusting the payouts for each outcome (collectively called the line) as imbalances of total amounts wagered between them occur.

Within the mathematical disciplines of probability and statistics this is analogous to an overround[3], though the two are not precisely synonymous but rather bijectivereciprocals of one another.[4] Overround occurs when the sum of the implied probabilities for all possible event results is above 100%, whereas the vigorish is the bookmaker's percentage profit on the total stakes made on the event. For example, an overround of 20% results in 16.66%[a] vigorish. The connecting formulæ are:

Sep 01, 2006 What is the origin of 'pea-shake' in reference to gambling? I'm going to have to take a totally wild guess on this one! I've searched all I can, and the only references seem to all lead back to a slang expression to black gambling dens in Indiana around 2004 during some news stories around that time.

v=o(1+o) and o=v(1v){displaystyle v={frac {o}{(1+o)}}quad {text{ and }}quad o={frac {v}{(1-v)}}}
where
v represents vigorish
o represents overround
  • 2Examples
  • 4Other kinds of vigorish

Proportionality[edit]

It is simplest to assume that vigorish is factored in proportionally to the true odds, although this need not be the case. Under proportional vigorish, a 'fair odds' betting line of 2.00/2.00[b] without vigorish would decrease the payouts of all outcomes equally, perhaps to 1.95/1.95, once it was added. More commonly though, disproportional vigorish will be applied as part of the efforts to keep the amounts wagered balanced, such as 1.90/2.00, making the outcome with fewer dollars wagered appear more attractive due to the larger payout.

Examples[edit]

The simplest wager[edit]

Two people want to bet on opposing sides of an event and agree to 'fair odds', also known as evens. They are going to make the wager between each other without using the services of a bookmaker. Each person agrees to risk $100 for the chance to win $100. The person who loses receives nothing and the winner receives both stakes. Rather than pay vigorish to someone who will guarantee that the winner will be paid, they both assume the opportunity cost in the event the backer of the losing side refuses to pay the winner at the event's conclusion.

By contrast, when using a sportsbook with the odds set at 1.90/2.00 (10 to 11) with vigorish factored in, each person would have to risk or lay $110 to win $100 (the sportsbook collects $220 'in the pot'). The extra $10 per person is, in effect, a bookmaker's commission for taking the action. This $10 is not in play and cannot be doubled by the winning bettor; it can only be lost. A losing bettor simply loses their $110. A winning bettor wins back their original $110, plus his $100 winnings, for a total of $210. From the $220 collected, the sportsbook keeps the remaining $10 after paying out the winner.

Theory vs. practice[edit]

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Vigorish can be defined independent of the outcome of the event and of bettors' behaviors, by defining it as the percentage of total dollars wagered retained by the bookmaker in a risk-free wager. This definition is largely theoretical in practice as it makes the assumption that the bookmaker has balanced the wagers perfectly, such that they makes equal profit regardless of the contest result.

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For a two outcome event, the vigorish percentage, v is

v=100(1pqp+q){displaystyle v=100*left(1-{p*q over p+q}right)}

where the p and q are the decimal payouts for each outcome.This should not be confused with the percentage a bettor pays due to vigorish. No consistent definition of the percentage a bettor pays due to vigorish can be made without first defining the bettor's behavior under juiced odds and assuming a win-percentage for the bettor. These factors are discussed under the debate section.

For example, 1.90/2.00 pricing of an even match is 4.55% vigorish, and 1.95/1.95 pricing is 2.38% vigorish.

Vigorish percentage for three-way events may be calculated using the following formula:[5]

v=100(1/p+1/q+1/t)11/p+1/q+1/t{displaystyle v=100*{(1/p+1/q+1/t)-1 over 1/p+1/q+1/t}}

where p, q and t are the decimal payouts for each outcome. For comparison, for overround calculation only the upper part of the equation is used, leading to slightly higher percentage results than the vigorish calculation.

Other kinds of vigorish[edit]

Casino games[edit]

More generically, vigorish can refer to the bookmaker/casino's theoretical advantage from all possible wagers on any game they offer. The term may also refer, and be applied in specific ways, to particular casino games.

  • Baccarat, in the house-banked version of baccarat (also mini-baccarat) commonly played in North American casinos, vigorish refers to the 5% commission (called the cagnotte) charged to players who win a bet on the banker hand. The rules of the game are structured so that the banker hand wins slightly more often than the player hand; the 5% vigorish restores the house advantage to the casino for both bets. In most casinos, a winning banker bet is paid at even money, with a running count of the commission owed kept by special markers in a commission box in front of the dealer. This commission must be paid when all the cards are dealt from the shoe or when the player leaves the game. Some casinos do not keep a running commission amount, and instead withdraw the commission directly from the winnings; a few require the commission to be posted along with the bet, in a separate space on the table.
  • Backgammon, the recube vig is the value of having possession of the doubling cube to the player being offered a double.
  • Craps, vigorish refers to the 5% commission charged on a buy bet, where a player wishes to bet that one of the numbers — 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10 — will be rolled before a 7 is rolled. The commission is charged at the rate of $1 for every $20 bet. The bet is paid off at the true mathematical odds, but the 5% commission is paid as well, restoring the house advantage. For many years, this commission was paid whether the bet won or not. In recent years, many casinos have changed to charging the commission only when the bet wins, which greatly reduces the house advantage; for instance, the house advantage on a buy bet on the 4 or 10 is reduced from 5% to 1.67%, since the bet wins one-third of the time (2:1 odds against). In this case, the vig may be deducted from the winnings (for instance, a $20 bet on the 4 would be paid $39 – $40 at 2:1 odds, less the $1 commission), or the player may simply hand the commission in and receive the full payout. This rule is commonplace in Mississippi casinos, and becoming more widely available in Nevada.
  • Roulette: odds are calculated out of 36 numbers, but the wheel has one or two extra pockets (zero and double zero).
  • Slot machines - the payouts and winning combinations available on most slot machines and other electronic gambling systems are often designed such that an average of between 0.1% to 10% (varying by machine and facility) of funds taken in are not used to pay out winnings, and thus becomes the house's share. Machines or facilities with a particularly low percentage are often said to be loose.
  • Poker
    • In pai gow poker, a 5% commission charged on all winning bets is referred to as vigorish. Unlike baccarat, the commission is paid after each winning bet, either by the player handing in the amount from his stack of chips, or by having the vig deducted from the winnings.
    • In table poker, the vigorish, more commonly called the rake, is a fraction of each bet placed into the pot. The dealer removes the rake from the pot after each bet (or betting round), making change if necessary. The winner of the hand gets the money that remains in the pot after the rake has been removed. Most casinos take 5-10% of the pot, typically capping the total rake at $3 or $4.

Other uses[edit]

  • In investment banking, 'vig' is sometimes used to describe profits from advisory and other activities.
  • In sports, Pittsburgh Pirates announcer Bob Prince coined the term 'hidden vigorish' to describe an underdog's ability to beat the odds in a given situation.
  • The term is also used in reference to an auction house's buyers and sellers fees.

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Notes[edit]

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  1. ^Much of the computation inherent to bookmaking is fractional, but frequently in print the decimal representations are used instead. This makes them easier to input into calculators and more agreeably format within any surrounding text. It is to be understood though that these fractions frequently result in a decimal repetend or infinitely repeating set of numbers somewhere to the right of the decimal point. For the sake of balancing clarity and accuracy, wherever possible this article will use a vinculum when there is a repetend, displaying the digits which infinitely repeat with an overline above them.
  2. ^Betting lines offered as examples below represent the ratio of total payout (stake + winnings) to the original amount risked. In the case of a $1 wager, a fixed-odds betting line of 1.83/2.20 would result in actual winnings of $0.83 and $1.20 for the backers of the respective outcomes, once the original $1 spent to place the wager is subtracted. The amounts and currency used are irrelevant; the calculation is always: a wager of size n offers a total payout of n × the betting line.

References[edit]

Where Does The Word Gambling Come From Florida

  1. ^'Vigorish dictionary definition | The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition'. www.yourdictionary.com. Retrieved 2019-06-03.
  2. ^'Definition of VIGORISH'. www.merriam-webster.com. Retrieved 2019-06-03.
  3. ^Moya, Fabián Enrique (2012-07-24). 'Statistical Methodology for Profitable Sports Gambling'(pdf). www.stat.sfu.ca. p. 15. in /web/20130612071000/https://www.stat.sfu.ca/content/dam/sfu/stat/alumnitheses/2012/FabianMoyaFinalVersion.pdf Archived Check |archiveurl= value (help)(PDF) from the original on 2013-06-12. Retrieved 2019-06-02.
  4. ^'A Refresher on Overround and Vig'. Matter of Stats. Retrieved 2019-06-03.
  5. ^'Profit margin calculator | Pinnacle'. www.pinnacle.com. Retrieved 2019-06-03.
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